Episode 211 - How Mary Sure Are You?

Mar 23, 2015

Hello hello hello! This week Ozoneocean and Banes pirate another of HippieVan's much discussed newsposts. When the test for Mary Sue was brought up in our recent writing tests Quackcast it generated some heated talk so HippieVan went a little deeper into it and people responded again. Banes and I discuss those responses and try to come up with some sort of consensus on how to more properly use the Mary Sue test and some of its pitfalls: i.e. it's highly context sensitive and can't be used easily on certain genres (Superhero etc), it's also something you as a writer typically don't have to worry about unless you're inexperienced- or so Banes and I believe.

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Topics and Show Notes

Topics and Show Notes:

Featured comic:
Psycho Babble - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Psycho_Babble/

Linkatronics:
Posts read from here - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/news/2015/mar/05/avoiding-the-mary-sue-a-contest/
Results of the Mary Sue comic contest - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/news/2015/mar/19/mary-sue-contest-submissions/
The dreaded test - http://www.springhole.net/writing/marysue.htm

Contributions from:
Call Me Tom - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/The_Understanding/
Tupapayon - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/tupapayon
Strixvanallen - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/strixvanallen
VinoMas - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/VinoMas
bravo1102 - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/bravo1102
KimLuster - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/KimLuster
HippieVan - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/HippieVan
JustNoPoint - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/JustNoPoint
Peipei - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Peipei
usedbooks - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/usedbooks
irrevenant - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/irrevenant
Kou the Mad
Hayakain - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Hayakain

Special thanks to:
The world's greatest Musician and BBQ chef, Gunwallace - http://www.virtuallycomics.com
The most attractive man in the world and most intelligent Co-host, Banes - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Banes/
Super qualified and amazingly beautiful featurer, Kawaiidaigakusei - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/kawaiidaigakusei/

The theme song by Gunwallace this week was for:
Devil Spy - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Devil_Spy/ by Jaymzeecat.

Episode 210 - DD Fashion Show!

Mar 16, 2015

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Have you heard the word about the DD Fashion Show Free For All that's currently going on? No? Well now's your chance, so listen up good! Banes and Ozoneocean interview VinoMas aka Travis Michael Moore about the great community project he's running. Here's the low down: You go to the Fashion Forum in the links here (http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/forum/13117/), desing an outfit for one of the figures there and post it in the catwalk thread for all to see and admire! You can put the outfit on your own figure and offer your own figure up for use as a model too if you like. Join in the fun, it's super easy. As long as you're a member of the forum and know how to host pics on photobucket.com or some other image sharing service you're all set! NOW GO TO IT!!

Episode 209 - lurv triangles

Mar 9, 2015

9 likes, 8 comments

Around about Valentine's day, HippieVan's mind turned to thoughts of love... and she conceived of a great newspost idea that was very popular with people! Love triangles are very good for generating drama in your writing without having to worry too much about forcing that through external events. And because they're primarily driven by you characters as well as affecting them it's a great way to build on your characterisation through the drama. In HippieVan's words we outline a few notable love triangles in fiction, both classic, and contemporary, then we include the contributions the DDers who were good enough to add their two cents to the subject.

Episode 208 - Testing Your Writing

Mar 1, 2015

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In this Quackcast Banes and I discuss some methods for testing your writing, well mainly your characters, to see how well you really know them. We use a comedic character creation template that we have found is perfect for testing and learning more about your established characters, no matter how serious they are. It consists of four interrelated elements: Point of view; Exaggeration of the point of view; Faults; Relatability / Humanity. We also talk a little about the dreaded dangers of the Mary Sue... you never want your writing to fall in that putrid, cancerous hole of smelly excrement where your main character is perfect and all the others worship them. And lastly the very useful Bechdel test for seeing how rounded your female characters are. There are 3 rules: You have to have at least two named women; They who talk to each other; It's about something besides a man. We were both a bit sad about the death of Leonard Nimoy. R.I.P. Mister Spock.

Episode 207 - A question of bodyshape part 2

Feb 22, 2015

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In Quackcast 207 we talk about bodyshapes in comics again; as a follow up from the chat we had about it in Quackcast 205 we thought we'd let the community weigh in with their thoughts... so Banes and I could get the chance to practice our voices. We wanted to know what others thought about the subject of about bodyshape in comics; Ones that they draw, read, or have just seen and think that it needs commenting upon. These Quackcasts were inspired of course by the images of athletes from the 2002 book "Athlete" by Howard Schatz. The photos show various athletes who're at the top level of their respective sports, it also shows that they have wildly different physical attributes: there IS no one ideal, and there IS no “normal”. This got us to thinking how body shape can define a character as much as facial features, hairstyle, clothing etc. Anyway, people had their say and it was enlightening! Also, Gunwallace's music this week was for FUNK! And funky it was, give it a listen.

Episode 206 - Turning An Idea Into A Comic

Feb 16, 2015

7 likes, 12 comments

Back in January our own HippieVan was in a quandary as to how to turn a creative idea she had into a webcomic, so she decided to put it o the DD community and croudsource their wisdom via a newspost. Banes and I thought the topic would make a good Quackcast, especially since we could read out all the interesting and informative posts people made on the subject! Banes has also approached the idea previously for Quackcast 68 where he outlines a screen-writing method called "save the cat", also known as "The Banes' Method". That Quackcast was since deleted but as a special treat I will re-upload it!

Episode 205 - What about bodyshape?

Feb 9, 2015

6 likes, 6 comments

This week Banes and I were inspired to talk about body shape in the depiction of figures in comics, inspired by some famous images from photographer Howard Schatz's 2002 book, Athlete. In it there are photos of many athletes who're at the peak of their sports and yet their bodyshapes are vastly different, subverting the idea of an "ideal" bodyshape or what it means to be a top athlete or even fit. too often bodyshapes in comics follow a very narrow range, not getting much past what we think of as the current popculture ideal. We all know that idealised model shape is a problem and yet we all still perpetuate it, most of the time you can only tell most "realistic" characters apart by their hairstyle or costume, especially in superhero comics. And that invents a second problem: the myth of the "normal" shaped body as opposed to the ideal- there IS no such thing as normal, and even the ideal is always changing throughout the ages. There's even a lot more to body shape than the famous categories: Mesomorph, Ectomorph, and Endomorph, or Skinny, Pear, Athletic, Hourglass and Apple. We also have a beif mention of how stylised characters (Sponge Bob, Calvin and Hobbes etc) are exaggerations of these shapes and differences.

Episode 204 - Talisman returns from exile

Feb 2, 2015

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Way back in 2012 Ozone interviewed the marvellously talented and professional Barb Myers about her art and her fantastic comics. Well it's 2015 now and Barb has finally been able to put out the whole of her comic "Talisman: Return of the Exile" for sale on Amazon! So of course now was the perfect time to catch up for another chat. I first came across her lovely comic on Drunk Duck years and years ago when it was called "Return to Donelly", it was a beautiful looking piece of work and it rightly brought her to the attention of the pros. It was picked up for Keen spot and then a publisher wanted to sell it in bookshops everywhere. Well things went screwy after that and it never really reached its full potential unfortunately. It disappeared from radar totally. Well now it's BACK! You can buy this great 108 full colour fantasy comic book story for only $10 US dollars. Mine should get to me on about the 10th of February. ^_^


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